CenturyLover wrote:

You cant seriously say that Italy didnt deserve the win. The team is full of talented players (Materazzi is one too, even though he often plays TOO roughly ).

nah mate. nobody will ever say that italy deserve to win, except for some italian supporters. by reading comments in youtube, some other sites and some even blogspot's featured blogs, most people said that france should have win and italian are cheaters. same goes to that zidane is a hero and materazzi is a stupid sh*t.

this is one screwed up world cup, and i am very dissapointed.
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There are plenty mean players like Materazzi, the headbutt was wrong. deal with it. Not that I was rooting for Italy, but hey they won the penalties: that's a skill too.

I can't wait to hear from Zidane today (who's going to give a statement about the incident today) But still these things are really common on the pitch, people give out elbows, step on toes when ref's not watching, spit, say terrible things just to get your oponent out of his game: nothing unsual in football. (and other sports too)

heruiyou wrote:

nah mate. nobody will ever say that italy deserve to win, except for some italian supporters. by reading comments in youtube, some other sites and some even blogspot's featured blogs, most people said that france should have win and italian are cheaters. same goes to that zidane is a hero and materazzi is a stupid sh*t. this is one screwed up world cup, and i am very dissapointed.

i agree with the majority...the italians are talented and played great to win themselves a berth to the final match but nobody can hail a stupendous victory when the final match is won on PK's

Terryb wrote:

There are plenty mean players like Materazzi, the headbutt was wrong. deal with it. Not that I was rooting for Italy, but hey they won the penalties: that's a skill too. I can't wait to hear from Zidane today (who's going to give a statement about the incident today) But still these things are really common on the pitch, people give out elbows, step on toes when ref's not watching, spit, say terrible things just to get your oponent out of his game: nothing unsual in football. (and other sports too)

so when's that? be sure to post what he said here okay .
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Tu_triky wrote:

i agree with the majority...the italians are talented and played great to win themselves a berth to the final match but nobody can hail a stupendous victory when the final match is won on PK's

I just wonder. if France won the PK's would it be a totally different thing?

CenturyLover wrote:

I just wonder. if France won the PK's would it be a totally different thing?

nah if france won on PK's the victory would be just as lame....at least in my book....although it would have made for a more interesting story in the sense that it was Zidane's last game and he came out of retirement to help his team.

Then how about game(s) where France won with Zidane's PK? I would say that its even more lame.

CenturyLover wrote:

Then how about game(s) where France won with Zidane's PK? I would say that its even more lame.

How bout the game when Italy won over Australia 1-0 on a penalty kick awarded due to an obvious dive by the Italian player.....that's even lamer....

Tu_triky wrote:

cuz his ass is old and he ain't gonna win any world cups.....nah just joking he's only 29 i think many ppl were surprised he announced his retirement after thinking about it for several months he said...he decided to retire a while back after the world cup....but he said it wasin't due to one particular reason...i think he wants to move on from soccer. ---------------------------- Japan legend Nakata retires at 29 Nakata enjoyed an illustrious career in the Italian league Japan midfielder Hidetoshi Nakata has announced his retirement from professional football at the age of 29. Nakata, who spent last season on loan at Bolton, played his last game at the World Cup as Japan bowed out at the group stage after losing 4-1 to Brazil. "I decided half a year ago that I would retire after the World Cup in Germany," Nakata told his official website. "I will never again stand on the pitch as a professional player. But I won't stop playing the game." Nakata joined Bolton in August and scored one goal in 21 league appearances. Bolton boss Sam Allardyce paid tribute to Nakata but said he was not shocked at the midfielder's decision to retire at such a young age. He will be remembered as the catalyst of Asian and Japanese football Sam Allardyce "The news isn't a surprise as far as I am concerned," he said. "Hide has had the time to think about his future and has decided the best outcome is to hang up his boots. "He's had a glittering career and has achieved plenty in the domestic game. "He will be remembered as the catalyst of Asian and Japanese football, and also the first Japanese export to European football. "It was a privilege to work with him last season, and I'd like to wish him well. "He will always be welcome as a guest at this football club in the future." Nakata spent seven years in Italy's Serie A, where he played with Roma, Parma, Bologna and Fiorentina. In 2005 he was honoured with one of Italy's highest awards - Knight of the Order of the Star of Italian Solidarity - for helping to promote Italy's image overseas

What's the link to Nakata's official website ? do you know what he will do then ? he's young ! he will get bored if he does just nothing ...

CenturyLover wrote:

Then how about game(s) where France won with Zidane's PK? I would say that its even more lame.

i think in any way in this world cup italy's victory will always be considered lame. and france victory will be considered at least a little more deserved.
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Zidane says sorry for dismissal



Zinedine Zidane has publicly apologised for his sending off in the World Cup final, but claimed he did not regret his actions against Marco Materazzi.

Zidane, who was captaining his country in his final match before retirement, stated that Materazzi insulted his mother and sister in the seconds leading up to the incident, which saw the France midfielder thrust his head into the Italy defender's chest.

"I reacted badly and I would like to apologise for it," Zidane told Canal Plus. "I would like to apologise because a lot of children were watching the match. I do apologise but I don't regret my behaviour because regretting it would mean he was right to say what he said."

He added: "There was no tension with Materazzi before or during the match.

"He just put his hand onto my shirt and I told him to stop. I told him that if he wanted it I could give it to him at the end of the match.

"Then he said very harsh words to me and repeated them several times. I left but then I went back towards him and things went very fast.

"The words he said concerned my mother and sister.

"I heard them once, then twice, and the third time I couldn't control myself. I am a man and some words are harder to hear than actions.

"I would have rather been knocked down than hear that."


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oh well, like I said above, these things happen. Even worse when the crowd makes 'monkey' sounds when the oponents player is black. and yet they play on. I can't think of a more racist/lower way to hurt a player..

Yes, Zidane was serene and spoke very well in french tv ! (Canal Plus and TF1)
An interview with no surprise, he said what everyone understood !

Of memory:

He is apologise for people and kids who have seen her gesture who is unforgivable in football and in life, but he is not sorry for the words that have said the Italian, it's more unforgivable that her gesture ! He don't understand why provocation is not yet sanctioned too.
He didn't make this by pleasure and he was conscious (it was a world cup final and his last game), but as a human being he couldn't let pass these words, and he had react naturally !
He's shock by racism, more when it's by a football player ! Today, racism is a big problem for FIFA and in football.
He was also shock by an italian newspaper who wrote that Italy won against a black and musulman team ! ( really f*ck ! )

And he has no regrets ! ^^


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Terryb wrote:

Zidane says sorry for dismissal Zinedine Zidane has publicly apologised for his sending off in the World Cup final, but claimed he did not regret his actions against Marco Materazzi. Zidane, who was captaining his country in his final match before retirement, stated that Materazzi insulted his mother and sister in the seconds leading up to the incident, which saw the France midfielder thrust his head into the Italy defender's chest. "I reacted badly and I would like to apologise for it," Zidane told Canal Plus. "I would like to apologise because a lot of children were watching the match. I do apologise but I don't regret my behaviour because regretting it would mean he was right to say what he said." He added: "There was no tension with Materazzi before or during the match. "He just put his hand onto my shirt and I told him to stop. I told him that if he wanted it I could give it to him at the end of the match. "Then he said very harsh words to me and repeated them several times. I left but then I went back towards him and things went very fast. "The words he said concerned my mother and sister. "I heard them once, then twice, and the third time I couldn't control myself. I am a man and some words are harder to hear than actions. "I would have rather been knocked down than hear that." ----- oh well, like I said above, these things happen. Even worse when the crowd makes 'monkey' sounds when the oponents player is black. and yet they play on. I can't think of a more racist/lower way to hurt a player..

the italians, spanish, english and germans are among the most rascist with the monkey sounds, the peanuts, the rasicst banners....

dood, they have straight up fascists attending some of those Serie A matches.

sao wrote:

Yes, Zidane was serene and spoke very well in french tv ! (Canal Plus and TF1) An interview with no surprise, he said what everyone understood ! Of memory: He is apologise for people and kids who have seen her gesture who is unforgivable in football and in life, but he is not sorry for the words that have said the Italian, it's more unforgivable that her gesture ! He don't understand why provocation is not yet sanctioned too. He didn't make this by pleasure and he was conscious (it was a world cup final and his last game), but as a human being he couldn't let pass these words, and he had react naturally ! He's shock by racism, more when it's by a football player ! Today, racism is a big problem for FIFA and in football. He was also shock by an italian newspaper who wrote that Italy won against a black and musulman team ! ( really f*ck ! ) And he has no regrets ! ^^ Italian

zidnane should have stuck a boot up his ass....the italians are among the most rasicst....sorry assholes.....

Helene wrote:

What's the link to Nakata's official website ? do you know what he will do then ? he's young ! he will get bored if he does just nothing ...

i don't think he will do just nothing helene...i'm sure with his wealth and fame...many opportunities will be open to him.



http://nakata.net/en/#c

Tu_triky wrote:

zidnane should have stuck a boot up his ass....the italians are among the most rasicst....sorry assholes.....

I wonder if you have any idea how racist you sound all the time sorry to say this, you might not mean to be racist but anyway...

but im not saying italians are not racist. theres racism in all countries anyway. i believe usa is also in the top of the list.

CenturyLover wrote:

I wonder if you have any idea how racist you sound all the time sorry to say this, you might not mean to be racist but anyway...

whatever.....i've been subject to it so perhaps i'm more sensitive to it than others...what i'm racist because i said zidane should have gave him a boot in the ass...that's not racism..

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but im not saying italians are not racist. theres racism in all countries anyway. i believe usa is also in the top of the list.

PLEASEEEEEE....of course there is racism in the united states but unless you've travelled the world which i have....don't EVEN say the US is at the top of the list...that is flat WRONG.

Europe has a strong history of racism AND anti-semitism that is still pervasive today...

What the hell was the political ideology of the three axis powers in WWII based on???? RACE....Fascism extols racist surperiority and the sanctity of the blood.

if you think i'm rascist you obviously don't read closely enough.


In America we don't throw peanuts, make monkey sounds, and bring Swatistkas in to the sporting arena....or make neo-nazi salutes..


edit: if i'm so rascist you should go back and read my comments in the Jap is an offensive term thread, or my consternation in this thread about how the Spanish coach called Henri a black piece of shiet, or the fact that Hana Yori Dango used the some of the most contrived racial stereotypes i've ever seen in the fact that Nanako Matsushima's maid in Los Angeles was a Black woman.....

i'ts a well known fact that the french and the spanish are the most racist.

krim wrote:

i'ts a well known fact that the french and the spanish are the most racist.

France too, I'm sorry, has undertones of anti-semitism...my consternation isn't focused on one group in particular though, just the offenses in general

Dood, it's ridiculous to interpret my criticism as rascist ~ that's plain unintelligent and misguided.

if i hate every race equally, does that mean im still racist?