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niko2x
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Neko
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Andocrates
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 10:20 am Post subject: . |
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I love Japan, the Japanese and the language - but that doesn't mean I'm blind. The truth is the truth even when it hurts. I think hafu is plenty nasty. It's a term to remind you you're not as good as the rest of the shin no nipponjin.
It means you're a half-breed. Faggot is new-hafu. Japan has a long way to go with racial relations and removing words like hafu is a good start. _________________ �͉̂��������ӂ��ӂ����Ă����B
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yareyare
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niko2x
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Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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yareyare wrote: | I'm not sure of a nice way to say half-chinese and half-white, but I do know that words like "nikkei jin" which means person of japanese decent might be a good approach, I don't know if there's a word for "person of chinese decent" but that might be a better descriptor...
later... | that term is used to describe the JPN descendants whose grandfathers first immigated to their respective countries. For example:
Yamada Taro = FOB JPNese in, let's say Peru
His son, Yamada Ichiro = Issei (1st line born in a foreign country)
Ichiro's son, Yamada Daiichiro = nissei (2st line born in a foreign country)
Daiichiro's son, Yamada Ryuichiro = sansei (and it continues)
BTW it can apply to girls or boys as well. But getting back to the root of the question: It doesn't apply to anyone who is half CHN and half JPN. _________________
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Neko
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yareyare
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Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 1:23 am Post subject: |
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jules wrote: |
If I'm not mistaken
�Ƃ� / toka usually used when you're trying to remember something or when you're uncertain about 'choosing/deciding something'
The meaning of 'Makudo ka kenchiki ka,...' and 'makudo toka kenchiki...' might be the same.
But the use of particle 'or' is more proper in 'makudo toka kenchiki...' |
That's excellent, thanks a lot jules, that makes sense, given the context
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Neko
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Bedi
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2004 2:39 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | nothing wrong with saying ___ to ___ no haafu
That's the usual pattern... and not very offensive. |
I agree
I always used �h�C�c�l�ƃg���R�l�̃n�[�t�@(doitsujin to torukojin no ha-fu) yet and since it's a fact... well poor those who are seeing mixed nationalities as a low half-breed.
It's superb knowing 2 languages like your mother tongue. However It sucks anyway to take races too serious >_< Sometimes it's interesting to know where someone was living before, what kind of cultural background he has but everyone who sees another race or nationality as low or non integrable or whatever should be thaught that he is wrong.
Say I'm a human, thats it
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lovelessemotion
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yume wrote: | "Nan da?"
"Nan nan da yo?!"
I guess it all depends on the tone in your voice, but in general,
I am sure someone can offer a more impolite way to say it, but I think this is quite sufficient enough. One shouldn't go around being rude anyway, right? | yup in a MEAN tone of voice "NAN DA YO"
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lovelessemotion
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Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2004 2:57 am Post subject: |
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ahochaude wrote: |
Same thing in negatives.
I know where you got confused by the "or" part. But, "And" is the phrase being implemented in this particular sentence. | i looked it up again in my japanese book...and ur right!...stupid me...
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ahochaude
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Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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Bedi wrote: | Quote: | "what the hell do you want?" |
pronounced like nani tendayo = would be like "What the hell are you talking about"
but remember this isn't the prefered polite version |
You forgot the "ii" in the beginning of your "tendayo".
S/B "Nani iitendayo??" (Literally> What the hell did you say?!)
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