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yohanm
Joined: 24 Jul 2008
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| I don't know yet... can you give me some advice? coz I'm still in college, I want to continue my study or work there...??? still don't know. |
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Bedi
Joined: 01 May 2003
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i came here after finishing high school, just bought a one way ticket to tokyo, with around €5000 saved up money in my pocket. that was 3.5 years ago and im still here, going to university and working part time.
if you arent afraid of working and dont complain if you dont get 8 hours sleeping time every night, tokyo is a great place to stay for a couple of years. just make sure that you save up some money before you come to get an apartment and pay the first installment of your japanese school.
i highly recommend you to be at least on a JLPT 4 - 3 level before you come if you're gonna try living here alone. my kanji was never that great, doesnt matter, but make sure you can understand and speak easy daily life stuff. the best way to learn speaking is by finding yourself some tandem partners (language exchange partners) meet twice a week, one time you just use japanese, the other time only whatever language your tandem partner wants to practice. learning japanese in a natural way, by spending time together having fun is the best way of learning useful stuff.
i got my first part time job here 3 weeks after i arrived. so, as long as you have enough money to finance yourself for the first few months everything should be ok.
dont concentrate on speaking too correct japanese, at first important is that people understand ya. japanese people use japanese wrong themselves all the time, no one cares, its the same everywhere. so dont be shy, try to get chances to speak as much as possible.
if you're gonna come here to work for your future, i recommend you not to waste time and money at easy going japanese schools. get yourself into one that has classes everyday for several hours, preferably one that prepares people for university here. students there are usually young and eager to study since they dont have more than 1.5 years to learn enough japanese for univ. entrance exams. and of course, at the beginning stay away from english speakers and indonesian-malaysian people since you will end up speaking in your native tounge most of the time.
it may all doesnt sound that much fun, well, it can be tough to be honest, so decide whether you wanna come here and have fun, or seriously hang in there, and have more fun later.
a good school i can recommend (in tokyo) is:
ƒAƒWƒA•¶‰»‹¦‰ï (Asian Students Cultural Association)
feel free to ask if i didnt answer what you wanted to know. |
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gaijinmark
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| Posted: Sat Aug 09, 2008 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Bedi wrote: |
dont concentrate on speaking too correct japanese, at first important is that people understand ya. japanese people use japanese wrong themselves all the time, no one cares, its the same everywhere. so dont be shy, try to get chances to speak as much as possible.
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THAT is the most important point Bedi It's drives me nuts sometimes when somebody will say, "You should have said "ni" instead of , , ," True, you don't want to sound like an idiot, but as long as the other person understands you, that's all that really matters.  |
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yohanm
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| Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Well thanks a lot bro, Bedi. That's very helpful. btw what kind of part time job avaible there? |
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yohanm
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| Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Well it's not a problem for me since the asian students are usually hardworkers, y'know? the main problem for me is the budget. Can you predict the estimated money I needed for monthly needs? |
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Bedi
Joined: 01 May 2003
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| yohanm wrote: | | Well thanks a lot bro, Bedi. That's very helpful. btw what kind of part time job avaible there? |
I did a whole bunch of jobs:
International School Bus Attendant,
Trashman (pays really good here , a 100 us$ for around 5 hours of work  ),
Waiter,
Security,
Party Service,
translator,
interpreter, german /turkish /english teacher (private and at schools).
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It was all fun and good experience. But the best job comparing easyness/payment is of course language teaching and translating.
But besides that there are lots of other opportunities:
Super markets, convenience stores, counting cars (for marketing purposes), barkeeper, pubs, IT companies (if you have the necessary skills), info service (for foreigners), callcenters, packaging goods, transportation companies, hotels etc. etc.
35% of Japans labor is build by part timers and temporary workers, especially in Tokyo you have lots of opportunities to work parttime.
However working hours are limited on a student visa (most hotels and some restaurants/pubs dont really care about that though).
And of course Scholarships! If you study hard, get some good scores, some Japanese schools offer scholarships to their students. Scholarships from outside are mostly avaiable after entering universtiy. Thanks to my power studying during the first year I got and am still getting various scholarships after entering university (between 450 - 1000 $ / month, no payback).
In my opinion a lot depends on especially the first year at japanes school, and then the first year at university since most scholarships are given away based on your grades etc. in those years.
| yohanm wrote: | | Well it's not a problem for me since the asian students are usually hardworkers, y'know? the main problem for me is the budget. Can you predict the estimated money I needed for monthly needs? |
Hmm, monthly expenses can vary a lot of course. I remember living with 750$ /month for a couple of months but it kinda sucks to be honest. if you work and study hard all the time and only go out like once or twice a month, it's usually better to enjoy that time as much as possible to gather energy again. And I have always been living with roommates since I came, that made rent and bills a little cheaper. Most normal apartments dont allow roomsharing, if they do, maybe around 2 people who have to be listed as rentee (<-dunno if this word exists), in my case we usually were around 4 - 5 ppl though. in a 3 - 4 ldk apartment. the purpose was saving money anyway. now im living with just one friend in a 2dk apartment for 750$ a month/two + gas, water, electricity. Including my monthly train ticket (30$) + mobile phone (60 - 100$, what could be a lot cheaper) + eating out, buying food for home = 1000$ - 1100$ dollars should be ok to maintain a middle luxurious lifestyle. (but i dont save money and only went home once so far, since I prefer working a lot during the vacation and not so much during university time now)
hmmm this might all got a little mixed up, just ask again if sth else pops in your mind. |
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yohanm
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| Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 6:24 am Post subject: |
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well, thanks a lot for these information....  
Sorry if I asked too much question 
I will ask you again if I need information again  |
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sassyanne
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:03 pm Post subject: ...... |
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what kind of job available in JAPAN?
i really want to go there..but i dont have any idea what kind of job is the best for me...i am college graduate  |
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Bedi
Joined: 01 May 2003
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| Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:15 pm Post subject: Re: ...... |
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| sassyanne wrote: | what kind of job available in JAPAN?
i really want to go there..but i dont have any idea what kind of job is the best for me...i am college graduate |
are we talking temporary part time (if so check previous posts)
or full time (if so I recommend pages like: http://www.gaijinpot.com/)? |
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ahochaude
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| Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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Bedi, it's been quite a while. Good to see posts from you. Seems as though you took your Japanese studying to the next level. Very good for you. Keep it up. |
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Bedi
Joined: 01 May 2003
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| Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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| ahochaude wrote: | Off topic:
Bedi, it's been quite a while. Good to see posts from you. Seems as though you took your Japanese studying to the next level. Very good for you. Keep it up. |
doumo  happy that there is someone who remembered me from back then, thank you very much. I hope to have some time from now on to reply to some of the upcoming questions here.
cheers |
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