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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 10:36 pm Post subject:
Rain in Spa, Hamilton Wins
1 Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:22:44.933
2 Felipe Massa Ferrari 14.461
3 Nick Heidfeld BMW 23.844
4 Fernando Alonso Renault 28.939
5 Sebastian Vettel Toro Rosso 29.037
6 Robert Kubica BMW 29.498
7 Sebastien Bourdais Toro Rosso 31.196
8 Timo Glock Toyota 56.506
Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 3006 Location: Locked in the trunk of a white Altima Country:
Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:48 am Post subject:
bmwracer wrote:
Hamilton stripped of Belgian GP win
Those Ferrari bastards did it again!!!
At a racing forum I check out everybody's screaming bloody murder. Here's a typical post, by a member who goes by the name Tifosi 77
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I'd call this penalty a joke, but I think jokes are meant to be funny.
There is some question as to whether or not the penalty is even subject to appeal. Normally, cutting the track is a drive-through, and those penalties cannot be appealed. In the final laps of a race, however, drive-throughs become time penalties. But, in terms of their 'appealability', do they remain drive-throughs at heart?
I think the FIA will have McLaren on a technicality. Again.
After Schumacher and Todt left, I was really hopeful that Ferrari would tone down the political crap. But it seems they are as conniving as ever. And the FIA is only too happy to lend a helping hand.
Edit: Here's one of the "calmer" posts:
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Best finish in years and they find a way to fyuck it up. The guy who was not a factor all day is handed the race. Ridiculous! All of this AFTER----AFTER---the national anthem has been sung, the champagne sprayed, pictures taken, the interviews done, and the hardwork by teams completed. The FIA, staying true to form, manages to AGAIN cheat the fans, cheat the sponsors, and cheat McLaren.
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:49 pm Post subject:
I need a new timing chain and an Oxygen sensor for my '96 Pontiac Grand AM. I've been told that it'd be ~$1,200 to have everything done . Should it really cost me that much? I mean, I've tried to find the kit myself, but most kits only come with the gears and the actual chain. I also need a tensioner and the guides...I'd really love to find a cheaper way to do this . _________________
I need a new timing chain and an Oxygen sensor for my '96 Pontiac Grand AM. I've been told that it'd be ~$1,200 to have everything done . Should it really cost me that much? I mean, I've tried to find the kit myself, but most kits only come with the gears and the actual chain. I also need a tensioner and the guides...I'd really love to find a cheaper way to do this .
It's not the parts that's the killer: it's the labor, which is typically around $80-$100/hour.
The suspension work on my car cost me $1300, with $800 of it for labor alone.
Changing the timing chain is pretty labor-intensive: a lot of stuff has to be removed to get to it... Changing the O2 sensor is relatively easy: you just have to jack up the car, unplug and unscrew the sensor, then screw in a new one.... _________________
Joined: 29 Feb 2004 Posts: 594 Location: United States Country:
Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:59 am Post subject:
bmwracer wrote:
It's not the parts that's the killer: it's the labor, which is typically around $80-$100/hour.
The suspension work on my car cost me $1300, with $800 of it for labor alone.
Changing the timing chain is pretty labor-intensive: a lot of stuff has to be removed to get to it... Changing the O2 sensor is relatively easy: you just have to jack up the car, unplug and unscrew the sensor, then screw in a new one....
Yeah, it'll be $650 for labor alone . I was told that the timing kit would be ~$550, but I found most of the stuff that I needed at auto parts places for a total of about $260 . I'll just change the O2 sensor on my own and have the guy fix the rest... _________________
Yeah, it'll be $650 for labor alone . I was told that the timing kit would be ~$550, but I found most of the stuff that I needed at auto parts places for a total of about $260 . I'll just change the O2 sensor on my own and have the guy fix the rest...
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:10 am Post subject:
shoujo22 wrote:
Yeah, it'll be $650 for labor alone . I was told that the timing kit would be ~$550, but I found most of the stuff that I needed at auto parts places for a total of about $260 . I'll just change the O2 sensor on my own and have the guy fix the rest...
i've not had a car, til now, that had a timing chain before, but my 94 acura had the timing belt, water pump, tensioner, bearing, all the associated gaskets, oil change, coolant flush and refill done for $480. I can't imagine it'd be that much more for a GM.. i mean the parts are usually way cheaper.