urrm..aloha!well i'm back..yea.anyway..i've been thinking and perhaps some of you guys been thinking bout this oso.Why do we like to be pretty?and for guys..why do they like to be gorgeous?is there anyone ever wanted to be ugly? well share with me here ya!

well... im my view... woman love beauty.. they love beautiful things... and they want to be beautiful
it is just the nature of women..

with beauty, ones will have confidence.. that's one of the important things of beauty

It's usually in one's nature to want to be attractive, male or female. We look in the mirror to see if we like what we see before leaving the house Sometimes we have times where we don't care, but usually we like to look at least presentable before leaving the house. Some people go overboard, but whatever floats their boats Mostly it's a thing about being happy with yourself, being happy with how you look. Maybe it stems from animal instinct, to make yourself attractive to find a mate, LOL But, married people look in the mirror before going to work too

so i can see if i can join a boy band, LOL!
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well...i think there is no one who wants to be ugly....it depends on how your definition is. i think most people want to look good....but every person has a own definition....i, for my part, think tha i don't look really bad...but there are people who say behind my back that i'm ugly and others whos say that i'm not.....

but in generall everyone wants too look good....not beautiful but good.

This is a odd topic.

bmwracer wrote:

This is a odd topic.

i think it's only odd IF a guy asks. LOL!
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I don't know anything about this "pretty".

it's a load of metro crap if you ask me.
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Ushiroyubi wrote:

I don't know anything about this "pretty". it's a load of metro crap if you ask me.

i agree. metro is just so gay. rimshot! LOL!
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lol...

I'm just being an ass. I don't have a problem with pretty people. I think all people should strive to look their best in today's societies.

People are so very caught up in looks so anything that helps build self-confidence in the LONG run is splendid.
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Beauty is a tool to cure one's ever-aching soul. For me, looking good is not mainly to attract others; it is more for my self-confirmation. If I like the way I look, I won't doubt other people's thoughts on me. Hence it won't cause any such complexes and hence negative effect on the people arround me.

Of course beauty is not the thing that is most important in life; it is merely a drug to easy your deteriorating soul. However, my philosophy is if you don't give a damn about what people CAN see (your outside appearance), what makes you think you would give a rat's ass about what people CAN'T see (your inner soul) - a wolf with a lamb's skin at least try to look like a sheep; a wolf with no lamb's skin is just a wolf.

Also, it is out of respect for other people as well. If no one cares about what they look like and walk outside in whatever they wear (or do not wear), what would the world turn into?

FierceStriker wrote:

If no one cares about what they look like and walk outside in whatever they wear (or do not wear), what would the world turn into?

A place that is a lot less shallow?
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Ushiroyubi wrote:

A place that is a lot less shallow?

So you think a nudist colony cannot be shallow, right? Do shallowness all come from appearance? Intelligence, righteousness, race, gender, age, anything that is claimable as a cause can be the start point of shallowness.

Don't you think the forever talk about "Beauty being Shallow" is shallow in its own? Those who seek such matter seem to enjoy the process more than the cause and the cause, my friend, was not so clear in the first place.

People are obsessed by beauty, you're bombarded everyday with images on TV, ads, magazines etc
Who doesn't want to beautiful? Everyone wants to have that sense of belonging and being liked.
Would you rather listen: "You're so cute" or "You're so ugly" The answer is obvious.
But if you can't see beyond beauty, that's a whole another story.

My point, beauty isn't everything

FierceStriker wrote:

So you think a nudist colony cannot be shallow, right?

All things influenced by society have degrees of taint of them. A nudist colony filled with people who are of a said society still suffers from elements of that society.

so no.

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Do shallowness all come from appearance?

Nope. But judging from appearance only tends to be more shallow than...

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Intelligence, righteousness, *race, gender, *age,

the * can be synonymous with the word "pretty" depending on who you ask... but let's not get into that, ok?

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Don't you think the forever talk about "Beauty being Shallow" is shallow in its own?

I think many said stereotypes and counter-arguments tend to be similar on opposite ends of the spectrum. But that wasn't my argument.

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Those who seek such matter seem to enjoy the process more than the cause and the cause, my friend, was not so clear in the first place.

Are you referring to the vain?

Are you trying to tell me that vanity is generally NOT one of the most shallow of life's preoccupations?
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Ushiroyubi wrote:

Are you referring to the vain? Are you trying to tell me that vanity is generally NOT one of the most shallow of life's preoccupations?

No. I do not think vanity is the most shallow of life's preoccupations. It is just the one that gets the most attacks, like Martha Stewart. Vanity DOES NOT equal shallowness and vice versa. The problem lies in selfishness. People, in the end, all value themselves the most. Vanity is only one of the many sins, so why do all just attack that one vein of sin? And who is to claim that is sin. Everyone has their own way of living, whatever prolongs that, whatever makes that existence meaningful and enjoyable is their own problem. Who are us to judge?

For flawed beings have no right to claim others flawed.

FierceStriker wrote:

No. I do not think vanity is the most shallow of life's preoccupations. It is just the one that gets the most attacks, like Martha Stewart.

Fuck Martha Stewart -<i>Fight Club</i>

I said vanity generally is ONE of the MOST shallow of life's preoccupations. And it's attacked so much because it IS so glaringly apparent.

Pay attention to my wording.

<i>Vanity DOES NOT equal shallowness and vice versa. The problem lies in selfishness. People, in the end, all value themselves the most. </i>

So you believe there are NO selfless people in the world? So missionaries and samaritans are all selfish egomaniacs looking to receive seats in sainthood?

All people that risk their lives for others are looking for some sort of Hero's parade and medal of honor for their bravery?

This is your argument?


<i>Vanity is only one of the many sins, so why do all just attack that one vein of sin?</i>

I attack a great many sins. VANITY just happens to be the topic at hand... and it is a problematic one.

<i>And who is to claim that is sin.</i>

Who is to claim most of it isn't? you?

<i>Everyone has their own way of living, whatever prolongs that, whatever makes that existence meaningful and enjoyable is their own problem. Who are us to judge? </i>

The people who live amongst other people in everyday life.

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For flawed beings have no right to claim others flawed.

No offense... but I think that's a load of crap. pointing out flaws in functioning society helps to bring discussion and possible changes... even if for a few.

I'm a flawed human being. I'm also judged by my appearance pre-introduction. Harmless "beauty" becomes a whole different monster when it brings people to judge the value of a person pre-exposition.

I'm guilty of it...

seeing your adamant defense of things I did not say, I'd say you're guilty of it...

I am just honest enough to say "I recognize it."
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FierceStriker wrote:

Of course beauty is not the thing that is most important in life; it is merely a drug to easy your deteriorating soul. However, my philosophy is if you don't give a damn about what people CAN see (your outside appearance), what makes you think you would give a rat's ass about what people CAN'T see (your inner soul) - a wolf with a lamb's skin at least try to look like a sheep; a wolf with no lamb's skin is just a wolf.

well said.
but i have a friend who does not bother about his appearance or the looks of his inner soul. and it gets very irritating [worst than me in fact.]. he just doesn't know when to shut up and he always gives horrible remarks.

as for vanity, i don't see anything wrong with it. i see it as a way for them obtaining their own self-sonfidence. BUT vanity tends to leave mix impressions on people. period.

In my opinion, we should not judge a person by just knowing that person for a couple of months unless we hang out with that person often. if we want to, then by all means go ahead. noone's stopping you. but this makes another person judge your actions. and so forth. it's like a cycle. BUT judging can be good as it also points out some things in society that are morally wrong.

and, there ARE selfless people in this world. just not many...


interesting discussion here.

Tekanan wrote:

as for vanity, i don't see anything wrong with it. i see it as a way for them obtaining their own self-sonfidence. BUT vanity tends to leave mix impressions on people. period.

# The quality or condition of being vain.
# Excessive pride in one's appearance or accomplishments; conceit. See Synonyms at conceit.
# Lack of usefulness, worth, or effect; worthlessness.
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1. Something that is vain, futile, or worthless.
2. Something about which one is vain or conceited.


all of these things are perfectly ok with you?

ok.

I'll quietly leave this thread now.
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Ushiroyubi wrote:

No offense... but I think that's a load of crap. pointing out flaws in functioning society helps to bring discussion and possible changes... even if for a few. I'm a flawed human being. I'm also judged by my appearance pre-introduction. Harmless "beauty" becomes a whole different monster when it brings people to judge the value of a person pre-exposition. I'm guilty of it... seeing your adamant defense of things I did not say, I'd say you're guilty of it... I am just honest enough to say "I recognize it."

You are not just saying your recognize it. You are giving it more unnecessary negative air than it needs. I am not trying to defend this topic, I am just sick and tired of self-righteous crap like this whenever any one mentions the word pretty or beauty or anything similar to it. You are calling me guilty? Vanity is one of my virtues and my souls is more prominent and experienced than most. Does that make me shallow? To think that all people who pursue beauty is shallow is just pure ignorance. Question yourself before you accuse others.

Just to point out here, I did not mean to make this as a personal attack on you, merely a more aggressive counter argument against YOUR OPINION. You obviously have taken it the wrong way and have returned what you thought I was giving to you. Such provincial minded argument has no value for anyone. I have no more words for you on this topic.

P.S. If everything can be determined by Dictionary definition, then there would not be so many untreatable problems in this world. AND if everything is so clearly defined, black and white, people throughout the ages would not have suffered so.