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Tokeida Yuji



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 4:20 pm    Post subject: best method to memorize Japanese writing systems? Reply with quote Back to top

anybody know any good METHOD TO MEMORIZE\REMEMBER KATAKANA, HIRAGANA AND KANJI CHARACTERS?

I KEEP MIXING THEM UP AND NEED HELP..
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ykobasig



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Perhaps this is too simple, but why not focus on katakana until you've mastered it, and then move on to hiragana, and then ...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

here's a site for memorising katakana by associating pictures. i managed to memorize them in a few days time.

http://learn-japanese-online.com/introduction1.html

but i recommend hiragana first, as katakana is less used (only on foreign words etc.).

i forgot the site for hiragana. i'll post it later.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

try this site very helpful Smile
http://www.msu.edu/~lakejess/kanjigame.html
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 1:53 pm    Post subject: memorize easily Reply with quote Back to top

There is a RPG game that incorporates katakana and hiragana in the game. My friends played it for about a week and learned all of the katakana, hiragana, and even alot of Kanji! Id play this game if i had more time (perhaps on vacation). I hear this game really really works

Here is the link
http://lrnj.com/
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

i, however, think katakana is really needed.. as katakana is being used more and more often in japanese nowadays.. it will be good to read katakana fast.. it's like when i started learning, i put too much emphasis on hiragana and now i'm trying to work hard on my katakana.. for me, kanji isn't a worry as i know chinese so it's easier.. Mr Green
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

since hiragana is taught to toddlers in jpn, i think it is essential to learn hiragana first. Even in a lot of books, if there is katakana and/or kanji written, there is hiragana that goes long with the katakana/kanji. Hiragana have a table/chart.(BTW, the chart reads from right to left, starting from ������A���A������B�@Try to master this and it should get easier as you go along, IMHO.
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eternal



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 8:10 pm    Post subject: Need advice on how to differentiate kanji,hiragana Reply with quote Back to top

Sorry,i repeat the same topic just to gain more attraction,anywa thx to those posted on "how to type kanji if i dun hav chinese star"
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i kinda understand that typing japanese word is how are we typing chinese word,we need to master the correct spelling of romanji,it is not the matter of prounouncation. Please do correct me if i made any error in my statement to prevent me from repeating the mistake.

However,i still dun get it!!!!!!!!!! ARGH!!!!!! Any kind soul who is free enough to visit this site ,the correct spelling of thank you in romanji is "arigatou",other than that,it won't come out the result,is it? (please answer yes or no) http://www.animelab.com/anime.manga/dictionary/?word=arigatou&type=romanji&search=Normal

Look,on the left side is kanji,on the right is kana/hiragana,which is an alien word to me. I'm a chinese and my primary language is mandarin,though romanji is much more easier to write not understand!! �� �� �� �� �� �A �L �� �� the 1st one is hiragana,the 2nd one is kanji,i remember someone told me that i should choose hiragana rather than hiragana,and when i input japanese words,the 1st one is most probably hiragana,the 2nd one is most likely to be kanji,AGREE??? please tell me the correct one.

I'm still very confuse,i did some testing on the website,whenever i input the romanji,it came out that 1 or 2 words different
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HTT



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Yes, the characters that look simple are kana(hiragana and katakana). The ones with a ridiculous amount of strokes are kanji.

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someone told me that i should choose hiragana rather than hiragana,and when i input japanese words


w00t?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

the way i differentiate between kata and hira is the curve of the stroke. If its curvy, its hiragana.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

The easiest thing to do is simply learn hiragana and katakana. You should be able to do it in about 2 or 3 weeks.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

is japanese words somewhat english alphabet? Does every word has it's meaning like how mostly chinese kanji does? in conclusion we will come across katakana and romanji words for the same meaning?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

eternal wrote:
is japanese words somewhat english alphabet? Does every word has it's meaning like how mostly chinese kanji does? in conclusion we will come across katakana and romanji words for the same meaning?


Only kanji has meaning on its own. Hiragana and katakana have no meaning on their own, thus it's like the english alphabet. You can learn to read it quite easily but to understand words made by them is a different story altogether...
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Yah,almost everyone suggest me to learn kana as it is less copmplex. How come i saw kanji on japanese website?

Like,what if i don't learn kanji? I won't be able to read japanese when it comes to kanji,right?
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ditmercury



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

eternal wrote:
Yah,almost everyone suggest me to learn kana as it is less copmplex. How come i saw kanji on japanese website?

Like,what if i don't learn kanji? I won't be able to read japanese when it comes to kanji,right?


since you've mentioned that you're a chinese...you'll have no problem understanding kanjis....since japanese borrowed the kanjis characters from the chinese......

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�� �� �� �� �� �A �L �� �� the 1st one is hiragana,the 2nd one is kanji,i remember someone told me that i should choose hiragana rather than hiragana,and when i input japanese words,the 1st one is most probably hiragana,the 2nd one is most likely to be kanji,AGREE??? please tell me the correct one.


agree.....whether to use kanji or kana that depends on the word...if the word has japanese root(didn't borrowed from any other language...then hiragana is used...thus its ���肪�Ƃ�..not �L��....


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I'm still very confuse,i did some testing on the website,whenever i input the romanji,it came out that 1 or 2 words different


sometimes there are some words that are spelled differently(different kanji) but have same pronunciation....
eg:�������F.......�v��...�z��...�d��

hope that helps.... Big Grin
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 2:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

NVM NVM ...i'm dumb...nvm


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HTT



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

As far as I can see, eternal is asking for how to differentiate kanji from kana. Not hiragana from katakana. So you would please do something about that big picture of yours, lovelessemotion? Load time is killing me. Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

oh! oh crap sorry!.... maybe i should read the whle post eh?...
I'M SOOO SORRY!!!!! Sorry!


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

HTT wrote:
As far as I can see, eternal is asking for how to differentiate kanji from kana. Not hiragana from katakana. So you would please do something about that big picture of yours, lovelessemotion? Load time is killing me. Sad


Why not get a better/faster connection?


-Just a suggestion.


As far as I'm concerned, I have "stinkin'/slow dial-up" but I don't complain about others' avatars or sigs. It's not anyone else's fault but my own if the pic(s) take time ("centuries") to load.


Don't be mistaken, I'm not trying to pick on you or anything. But Loveless is not the only one with a big signature like that.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

ahochaude wrote:
But Loveless is not the only one with a big signature like that.
OH! he's talking about my sig.!?!?!?! Google i toughtr he was talking about the charts i posted up....
*sigh*...ok if it bothers ya... i'll go change my sig... ok? ..just a sec..
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