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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:59 pm Post subject:
My new nihon-go sensei is nice thank god!
She'll suffer though because I lack precision when it comes to writing.
I am a firm believer that the result counts more than the methodology and the procedure. This is why I don't see why I have to follow a certain order in strokes when it comes to writing as long as one can recognise what I wrote.
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 6:37 pm Post subject:
EstherM wrote:
My new nihon-go sensei is nice thank god!
She'll suffer though because I lack precision when it comes to writing.
I am a firm believer that the result counts more than the methodology and the procedure. This is why I don't see why I have to follow a certain order in strokes when it comes to writing as long as one can recognise what I wrote.
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:10 pm Post subject:
EstherM wrote:
I am a firm believer that the result counts more than the methodology and the procedure. This is why I don't see why I have to follow a certain order in strokes when it comes to writing as long as one can recognise what I wrote.
I think stroke order is important to make the characters you write look consistent, and it also helps the shape, spacing and distribution of strokes within the allotted space. I used to remember most stroke orders but now I don't, and my writing just looks so childish and ugly now that I often can't stand it and have to re-write again. I guess it's probably hard to tell the difference at the start, but it will become apparent at a glance eventually. This is from my experience with writing Chinese characters, but many kanji are the same, so it should be relevant, I hope.
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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 8:57 pm Post subject:
xploring wrote:
I think stroke order is important to make the characters you write look consistent, and it also helps the shape, spacing and distribution of strokes within the allotted space. I used to remember most stroke orders but now I don't, and my writing just looks so childish and ugly now that I often can't stand it and have to re-write again. I guess it's probably hard to tell the difference at the start, but it will become apparent at a glance eventually. This is from my experience with writing Chinese characters, but many kanji are the same, so it should be relevant, I hope.
I think you're right but I also believe each person has different ways in achieving results. I function better if I rely on my intuition as I have a mild form of AD/HD. Poor sensei
I think stroke order is important to make the characters you write look consistent, and it also helps the shape, spacing and distribution of strokes within the allotted space. I used to remember most stroke orders but now I don't, and my writing just looks so childish and ugly now that I often can't stand it and have to re-write again. I guess it's probably hard to tell the difference at the start, but it will become apparent at a glance eventually. This is from my experience with writing Chinese characters, but many kanji are the same, so it should be relevant, I hope.
I always watch the kanji masters at the Nisei Festival. It is now clear to me that although stroke order is not so much the priority, it is stroke direction that makes the difference. When these artists write a stroke, the beginning of the stroke is always thick becoming gradually thinner and at the end there is a little hook. That is what gives the true Oriental Kanji their distinctive look. I try often without success to maintain the stroke direction even though I use only a pen or pencil. I've tried using a Kanji brush and then I realize how talented these masters really are.
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Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:43 am Post subject:
ralphm1999 wrote:
I always watch the kanji masters at the Nisei Festival. It is now clear to me that although stroke order is not so much the priority, it is stroke direction that makes the difference. When these artists write a stroke, the beginning of the stroke is always thick becoming gradually thinner and at the end there is a little hook. That is what gives the true Oriental Kanji their distinctive look. I try often without success to maintain the stroke direction even though I use only a pen or pencil. I've tried using a Kanji brush and then I realize how talented these masters really are.
There are certain techniques, grips when using those brush for calligraphy. Stroke order, and direction, are probably second nature to anyone who left school but calligraphy takes a lot more time and dedication to master. There are different styles of calligraphy too, they correlate with different historical periods, I think.
It's amazing how much better one feels with the causes for all the stress begin to melt away.
I sent my XBox off, and it was followed with a sense of relief. In 2-3 weeks I should get it back, all brand spankin' new!
I think I've found my binder of dramas that I misplaced! I few hours of organization on my site should solve that mystery.
My computer's drive still doesn't work, nor does my mouse scroll upward, but I just found out that my warranty lasts until 2011, so I'm covered! I even found an Apple Store so I'll be taking it in when my Xbox arrives. I can't live without BOTH technologies. Not having one is worse enough.
All my marking is done, with marks submitted.
There's more stuff... but I'm anxious to work on my site. _________________
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Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 7:32 am Post subject:
Wynter wrote:
It's amazing how much better one feels with the causes for all the stress begin to melt away.
Ive read that for stress reduction during high stress periods of your life, such as divorce, moving etc. to lessen the overall stress load they suggested taking care of all the little things that are annoying, like you just did, and the relief is huge. _________________
Ive read that for stress reduction during high stress periods of your life, such as divorce, moving etc. to lessen the overall stress load they suggested taking care of all the little things that are annoying, like you just did, and the relief is huge.
It's so true! Of course, I don't have major things that are making stressed, like divorce (been there) or moving (been there). I'm just whining. _________________
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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:53 am Post subject:
Wynter wrote:
I sent my XBox off, and it was followed with a sense of relief. In 2-3 weeks I should get it back, all brand spankin' new!
If it's like my experience with the "red ring of death", you'll only get a refurbished model rather than a new one. Hopefully you won't have to send it in again for the same problem.
If it's like my experience with the "red ring of death", you'll only get a refurbished model rather than a new one. Hopefully you won't have to send it in again for the same problem.
Well yea, it's usually a refurbished one. I don't mind as long as it WORKS. It's only been gone one day and I miss it already.
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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 6:45 am Post subject:
Wynter wrote:
It's so true! Of course, I don't have major things that are making stressed, like divorce (been there) or moving (been there). I'm just whining.
Well, Im glad to hear that!!
Better small problems than large..
bmwracer wrote:
That's what this thread's for, among others...
Yes, it is. It is good to spread the gripe amongst relatively same, sort of sensible people....
Kijinnmaru wrote:
Back on topic, break-up sucks.
Yes, it does....
Good luck.....
ON TOPIC:
My animals getting older. One of the horses has developed a heart murmur. He's 29, which is old, but that doesnt make not sad. He has had a great life though and a primo retirement.
We should all be so lucky. _________________
My animals getting older. One of the horses has developed a heart murmur. He's 29, which is old, but that doesnt make not sad. He has had a great life though and a primo retirement.
We should all be so lucky.
Lucky horse indeed! Do you have other animals? _________________
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