In Japanese, is there an expression that is similar to "sacrifice the flesh to crush the bone"? Can anyone write out the phonetic version of the Japenese version in english if possible?
Does "douskoi" mean anything or is it only an exclamation?
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:58 am Post subject:
i have read that some people watch doramas without subtitles so they can better listen to what the people are saying and learn that way. I have extremely limited vocabulary (only a few words really). could i try and learn this way? would it work? and are there any specific shows that would be good to learn from this way. thanks in advance
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:04 am Post subject:
alexgamerz wrote:
i have read that some people watch doramas without subtitles so they can better listen to what the people are saying and learn that way. I have extremely limited vocabulary (only a few words really). could i try and learn this way? would it work? and are there any specific shows that would be good to learn from this way. thanks in advance
I would be very surprised if you learned anything at all that way. There's no easy way to learn Japanese, but the best way would be with proper lessons, preferably with a native or fluent speaker.
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:39 am Post subject:
alexgamerz wrote:
i have read that some people watch doramas without subtitles so they can better listen to what the people are saying and learn that way. I have extremely limited vocabulary (only a few words really). could i try and learn this way? would it work? and are there any specific shows that would be good to learn from this way. thanks in advance
its helped me but i find japanese variety show are much better to learn japanese this way. _________________
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Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:10 am Post subject:
a-nesuto wrote:
its helped me but i find japanese variety show are much better to learn japanese this way.
The cool thing about variety shows is that they usually have subtitles in kanji/hiragana/katakana so it helps your reading skills as well. (At least is has for me.)
i have read that some people watch doramas without subtitles so they can better listen to what the people are saying and learn that way. I have extremely limited vocabulary (only a few words really). could i try and learn this way? would it work? and are there any specific shows that would be good to learn from this way. thanks in advance
in your case i would rather watch the tv series with (soft) subtitles first, and repeadetly listen to some parts you think will be useful without the subtitles later on.
You will probably learn more useful japanese from dramas than variety shows, since people in variety shows often exaggerate in their speech or use funny/silly expressions. so for the beginning learning a little simple but clean japanese is recomended. otherwise you will mess up nuance wise in several real life situations later on. also, many subtitles of variety shows probably dont include notes on whether what the speaker said isnt in fact considered rude, but was used to make people laugh or whatsoever.
i have read that some people watch doramas without subtitles so they can better listen to what the people are saying and learn that way. I have extremely limited vocabulary (only a few words really). could i try and learn this way? would it work? and are there any specific shows that would be good to learn from this way. thanks in advance
I'd learn some basic japanese grammar and vocabulary first before watching dramas without subs. Without a decent grasp of the basics you'll never get further than making out a few words. Japanese grammar is not too complicated, if you're willing to devote some time to it it shouldn't be a problem. Reading and writing however ....
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Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:51 pm Post subject:
Hello!
A friend and I are wondering how you have to answer a "-masenka" question, if you want to accept the offer. Is it "hai" or "iie"?
We aren't sure about 'cause it's a negative-formend question ...
The example was this one:
A [is taking a walk with B]: "uchi ni kaerimasenka."
B: "hai, kaerimashou." or "iie, kaerimashou."
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:24 pm Post subject:
gaijinmark wrote:
The cool thing about variety shows is that they usually have subtitles in kanji/hiragana/katakana so it helps your reading skills as well. (At least is has for me.)
Same here, music shows are the same way with the subs, I still have too far to go though, but animes are also very good, they're more geared for a younger audience so they use much more simpler words and phrases, helped me learning many of them.
Course having both subs helps even more.
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:09 pm Post subject:
hitomi #1 wrote:
Same here, music shows are the same way with the subs, I still have too far to go though, but animes are also very good, they're more geared for a younger audience so they use much more simpler words and phrases, helped me learning many of them.
Course having both subs helps even more.
It puts more emphasis on wot their trynna say. It makes watching variety shows funnier in my view. Mabye thats just me,,,just a japanese point of view _________________
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:12 pm Post subject:
KAZdoramma wrote:
It puts more emphasis on wot their trynna say. It makes watching variety shows funnier in my view. Mabye thats just me,,,just a japanese point of view
I've seen this many times, maybe you know, what are they trying to say when they use katakana for Japanese words? It seems strange so there must be some cultural meaning to doing it.
Or sometimes they will say a Japanese word, but the subtitile will be written with English letters.
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:36 pm Post subject:
desert-raven wrote:
I've seen this many times, maybe you know, what are they trying to say when they use katakana for Japanese words? It seems strange so there must be some cultural meaning to doing it.
Or sometimes they will say a Japanese word, but the subtitile will be written with English letters.
I'm so confused...
-Dave
Usually it's for emphasis. If they say "����" (tsugoi) it's great. But if the subtitle says "�c�S�C" in katkana, then it's REALLY great!!
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Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:48 pm Post subject:
gaijinmark wrote:
Usually it's for emphasis. If they say "����" (tsugoi) it's great. But if the subtitle says "�c�S�C" in katkana, then it's REALLY great!!
ummm yeah the general jist of wot ur trynna say is correct. Putting more emphasis on wot people say on the show gives more flow to the conversations and stuff,.
and gaijinmark, i think u meant �������H�H _________________
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Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:01 am Post subject:
KAZdoramma wrote:
It puts more emphasis on wot their trynna say. It makes watching variety shows funnier in my view. Mabye thats just me,,,just a japanese point of view
I always thought too because there are so many ways to pronunce things, putting the Kanji lets you what word they are saying. Have watched dramas when someone said their name, then people ask what Kanji they used to spell it. No, it's not just you, seems more interesting putting the dialouge with it and if you don't mind constantly pausing the video, both subs really are good.(if they're translated right) _________________
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Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:22 am Post subject:
Hi all,
Very recently, my cousin's husband's mother in Japan passed away. I met her husband but not the mother.
I need to send condolences to my cousin and her husband but don't know what or (or course) how to say it.
If there're native speakers out there, can you please provide me with the appropriate/polite wording, please? I can speak some Japanese but these types of situations are unknown territory for me.
Very recently, my cousin's husband's mother in Japan passed away. I met her husband but not the mother.
I need to send condolences to my cousin and her husband but don't know what or (or course) how to say it.
If there're native speakers out there, can you please provide me with the appropriate/polite wording, please? I can speak some Japanese but these types of situations are unknown territory for me.
Really appreciate the help! Onegai shimasu.
�S��肨����ݐ\���グ�܂� [kokoro yori okuyami moushiagemasu] (Meaning: Me deepest condolences).
If you just want to say, "My condolences," then perhaps ���D���l�ł� (goshuushou sama desu)
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but animes are also very good, they're more geared for a younger audience so they use much more simpler words and phrases, helped me learning many of them. 
It's still early Friday morning here. 
Have watched dramas when someone said their name, then people ask what Kanji they used to spell it. 
No, it's not just you, seems more interesting putting the dialouge with it and if you don't mind constantly pausing the video, both subs really are good
