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Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:10 am Post subject:
So Welker is now A Bronco .... WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
is like when Vinatieri went to the Colts.
its seems like they leave Brady they to Payton a
**Wes Welker agrees with Broncos**
The Broncos agreed with Welker on a two-year contract worth $12 million, a league source told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter. The deal also includes $150,000 in incentives in each year if he catches 90 passes.
The other team that pursued Welker was the Tennessee Titans, a source familiar with the situation said.
The Patriots responded quickly to Welker's loss by agreeing in principle on a five-year, $31 million deal, including $10 million guaranteed, with St. Louis Rams wide receiver Danny Amendola, a league source told Schefter.
As for how Welker's departure has been received by Brady, who last month restructured his contract to provide more salary-cap flexibility to help the Patriots build a better team, a source who had direct contact with Brady told ESPNBoston.com that the quarterback is "bummed out."
Broncos executive vice president of football operations John Elway tweeted the club's agreement with the former New England Patriot.
Excited to have Wes join the Broncos. His production & toughness will be a great asset!" Elway wrote.
Elway also was thrilled at getting Welker for another reason.
"Any time you can take a player from a team you have to compete against, it helps, especially the caliber of Wes Welker," Elway said. "New England is there year in and year out, and that's a team we have to beat to get where we want to get."
Broncos coach John Fox also was ecstatic at giving Manning another target.
"You try to surround your quarterback with weapons," Fox said Wednesday afternoon outside his Dove Valley office. "I think we took a big step in signing Wes Welker."
Welker joins a Denver offense that already featured two 1,000-yard receivers last season in Demaryius Thomas and Eric Decker.
"When you're a passing attack and you've got [No.] 18, you're looking for three productive guys out there," Fox said. "I think Wes Welker has proven as productive a slot receiver as there is really in recent NFL history."
The Patriots had been negotiating with Welker leading up to free agency, but the sides could not find common ground on a deal. Welker, 31, played under the franchise tag and a $9.5 million salary for the 2012 season and finished with a team-high 118 catches for 1,354 yards and six touchdowns.
The team elected not to tag him this offseason. If it had, Welker would have received an escalated salary of $11.4 million for the 2013 season.
Welker, the NFL's premier slot receiver, had been a fan favorite in New England since he arrived via trade in 2007. His 672 receptions over six seasons (an average of 112 per season) since joining the Patriots are the most in the NFL during that span. He became the first player in NFL history with five 100-catch seasons.
Among Welker's biggest supporters was Brady, who helped the Patriots clear $15 million in cap space over the next two seasons by restructuring his deal and signing an extension.
Brady was willing to accept the deal, considered below market value, because of the trust that exists between the two-time Super Bowl MVP and the team. Brady felt that in giving New England this cap flexibility, a source told ESPNBoston.com, he trusted the Patriots would add the right players to finish his career with the best chance to win another championship.
On Monday, Patriots owner Robert Kraft said he hoped Welker would be "a Patriot for life, just like Tom Brady."
The loss of Welker caught some in the Boston area a little bit by surprise.
"Say it ain't so, Wes!" Celtics coach Doc Rivers said before their game against Toronto. "He was fun to watch."
Welker had a team-high eight catches for 117 yards in New England's 28-13 AFC Championship Game loss to the Baltimore Ravens.
Denver was not finished after signing Welker, also agreeing to terms with cornerback Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie and linebacker Stewart Bradley on one-year contracts and defensive tackle Terrance Knighton on a two-year deal.
Last year, the Broncos won the high-stakes contest to sign Manning, prompting Broncos boss Elway to quip, "Plan B? I don't have a Plan B. We're going with Plan A."
Coming off a 13-3 season during which the Broncos looked like a Super Bowl contender before losing to Baltimore in the divisional round of the playoffs, Elway is clearly on the same path this time.
He picked up the league's most productive receiver to play in the slot, where Brandon Stokley was last season. He has been selected to the Pro Bowl in each of the past five seasons and was an All-Pro four of the past five.
Information from ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter, ESPNBoston.com's Mike Reiss and Field Yates and The Associated Press was used in this report.
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Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:44 pm Post subject:
Former NFL great Jack Pardee dies at 76
HOUSTON -- Jack Pardee, one of Bear Bryant's "Junction Boys" at Texas A&M who went on to become an All-Pro linebacker and an NFL coach, died Monday. He was 76.
In November, Pardee's family announced that he had cancer and had six to nine months to live. The family has established a memorial scholarship fund in Pardee's name at the University of Houston, where Pardee coached from 1987-89.
The 14th overall pick in the 1957 NFL draft by the Los Angeles Rams, he played for the team from 1957-64, sat out a year with melanoma, and played seven more seasons. He finished his playing career with the Washington Redskins in 1973 and coached the team from 1978-80.
"In his time both on the field and on the sideline, Jack Pardee will forever be a part of the Washington Redskins' legacy," owner Daniel Snyder said in a statement. "He will be remembered not just as a linebacker for the 1972 NFC Champions, nor as just the coach for our franchise. He will be remembered as someone whose spirit truly embodied the values that we associate with the burgundy and gold."
Before the NFL, Pardee coached in the World Football League. He was the Bears' head coach from 1975-77 and guided Chicago to its first playoff appearance since the early 1960s. Pardee moved to the Redskins in 1978, while the Bears made the postseason again in 1979.
"The Bears family was saddened to hear of Jack Pardee's passing," Bears chairman George McCaskey said in a statement. "Coach Pardee's time with us was only three seasons, but he made an impact by ending a 14-year playoff drought in 1977."
The Redskins fired Pardee after Washington went 6-10 in 1980. He served as San Diego's defensive coordinator for one season, then returned to Texas to coach the USFL's Houston Gamblers.
When the USFL disbanded in 1987, Pardee became the coach at the University of Houston and brought along the fast-paced "run-and-shoot" offense that worked well with the Gamblers. The NCAA levied severe sanctions on the program in 1988, the result of violations committed under previous coach Bill Yeoman. Houston was banned from playing in a bowl game for two years and banned from playing on television in the 1989 season.
But the Cougars led the nation in total offense (624.9 yards per game) and passing offense (511 yards per game) in 1989, and quarterback Andre Ware became the first black quarterback to win the Heisman Trophy. Houston finished 9-2 and ranked No. 14 in the nation.
"When you talk about the great offenses in the history of college football, coach Pardee's run-and-shoot teams from the late 1980s must be considered near the top of that list," Houston coach Tony Levine said.
Pardee became the coach of the NFL's Houston Oilers in 1990, and led the team to the playoffs in each of his first four seasons. Current Tennessee coach Mike Munchak was an offensive lineman for the Oilers from 1982-93 and then became one of Pardee's assistant coaches.
"We lost a great coach and, more importantly, a great man today," Munchak said in a statement. "I truly admired his passion for football and was especially inspired by his love of the history of the game. He often shared stories of his NFL playing days to motivate his players, which has greatly influenced the way that I now coach my players. Coach Pardee will surely be missed."
Oilers owner Bud Adams traded star quarterback Warren Moon to Minnesota before the 1994 season, and Pardee resigned after a 1-9 start. He ended his NFL coaching career with a record of 87-77. Pardee's last coaching job came when he worked for the Birmingham Barracudas of the Canadian Football League in 1995.
Pardee was born in Iowa and moved to west-central Texas as a teenager. He played six-man football at Christoval High School before moving on to Texas A&M. Bryant became the Aggies' coach in 1954 and moved their preseason camp to desolate Junction, about 100 miles northwest of San Antonio.
The state endured a severe drought and an historic heat wave that year, but Bryant worked his team through the brutal conditions and refused to allow water breaks in an effort to toughen players. Pardee was one of 35 players who made it through to the end of the 10-day camp without quitting.
"Today, we mourn the passing of a great man who dedicated his life to the game of football and was a true gentleman in every sense of the word," Houston athletic director Mack Rhoades said.
Pardee and his wife, Phyllis, were married for more than 50 years and have five children and 12 grandchildren.
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:24 pm Post subject:
Not a good week for ex-coaches.
Former Oklahoma, Patriots coach Chuck Fairbanks dies of cancer
OKLAHOMA CITY — Chuck Fairbanks, who coached Heisman Trophy winner Steve Owens at Oklahoma and spent six seasons as coach of the New England Patriots, died Tuesday in Arizona after battling brain cancer. He was 79.
Oklahoma said in a news release that Fairbanks died in the Phoenix suburb of Scottsdale.
�gHe was a special coach, he was a special friend,�h said Owens, one of five Heisman winners for Oklahoma after rushing for 1,523 yards and 23 touchdowns in 1969. �gAs a player, he made me better on the field. He was a tough coach, but he was a fair coach.�h
Fairbanks was 52-15-1 in six years with the Sooners, including an Orange Bowl victory his first season and consecutive Sugar Bowl wins in 1971-72 before taking over the Patriots. He won 46 games for New England, a franchise record at the time.
The Patriots made the playoffs in their fourth season under Fairbanks in 1976 and two years later were on their way to their first outright AFC East title when owner Billy Sullivan angrily suspended him for the final regular-season game because he had agreed to go to Colorado. Fairbanks returned for the playoffs, but New England lost to Houston.
Colorado hired Fairbanks away from the Patriots, but he was 7-26 in three seasons, including an 82-42 loss at home to the Sooners and his replacement, Barry Switzer.
Fairbanks left the Buffs to become coach and general manager of the New Jersey Generals of the USFL. He was fired after one season.
Fairbanks agreed with the suggestion of Switzer, his offensive coordinator, to install the Wishbone at OU after Texas used it to win a national championship in 1969. After becoming head coach, Switzer used the Wishbone to win three national titles.
�gHis squads won three Big Eight championships and helped lay the foundation for the program�fs ongoing success with the installation of the Wishbone-T offense,�h current Oklahoma coach Bob Stoops said in a statement.
I was living in the L.A. area when Pardee played for the Rams in the 60's. He was part of George Allen's Over-the-hill gang--crafty veterans that Allen depended on to provide leadership and toughness. He was part of some really good defenses: the Fearsome Foursome were doing their thing, and Pardee was part of a solid LB corps--Maxie Baughn and Myron Pottios were the other two geezers of that group.
As the article points out, he brought in the Run and Shoot (Mouse Davis version) to the University of Houston where they put up preposterous offensive stats. This was at a time in college football where you were considered wide-open if you threw the ball 20 times a game; Houston threw it twice as much.
The fact that he had a long NFL career, was one of the "junction boys" survivors, and beat cancer to prolong his playing career bespeaks how tough he was.
Former Oklahoma, Patriots coach Chuck Fairbanks dies of cancer
Chuck Fairbanks was one of those coaches who had long careers with a number of different teams.
I remember when he coached Steve Owens at Oklahoma, he would routinely have him carry the ball 45--50 times a game. Nowadays there are college teams that don't run the ball that often in TWO games.
I suspect he will be best remembered for bringing the Wishbone offense to Oklahoma (although it was his then assistant coach, Barry Switzer, who did the heavy work in learning it, installing it, and running it).
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:12 am Post subject:
Pat Summerall dies at 82
Pat Summerall, a former NFL player who called NFL games as a broadcaster for more than 40 years, has died at the age of 82.
"Pat Summerall was one of the best friends and greatest contributors that the NFL has known," commissioner Roger Goodell said in a statement.
FOX Sports, the network Summerall worked for from 1993 to 2002, confirmed his death after the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center said Summerall died in his room at Dallas' Zale Lipshy Hospital of cardiac arrest. Summerall was hospitalized recovering from hip surgery.
Summerall participated in network television broadcasts for 16 Super Bowls. His final Super Bowl was called on Feb. 3, 2002. That also was his last game with John Madden. Summerall and Madden worked together for 21 years. Summerall's voice was also used in Madden's early video games.
"Pat was my broadcasting partner for a long time, but more than that he was my friend for all of these years," Madden said in a statement. "We never had one argument, and that was because of Pat. He was a great broadcaster and a great man. He always had a joke. Pat never complained and we never had an unhappy moment. He was something very special. Pat Summerall is the voice of football and always will be."
Summerall also broadcast golf and tennis events.
He played in the NFL for 10 seasons, primarily as a kicker, for the Detroit Lions, Chicago Cardinals and New York Giants.
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Posted: Wed May 15, 2013 2:26 am Post subject:
A guy whose career was derailed by drugs but he was able to turn his life around. Died way too young.
Chuck Muncie dies at 60
Chuck Muncie, a running back whose NFL career was cut short by drug use, has died at the age of 60.
The New Orleans Saints confirmed his death, which ESPN�fs Adam Schefter reported was caused by a heart attack.
Muncie, who played at Cal, finished second in Heisman Trophy voting in 1975 and was the Saints�f third overall pick in the �f76 NFL draft. Although he rushed for 1,198 yards on 238 carries and scored 11 touchdowns in 1979, he was unhappy in New Orleans and was traded to San Diego in 1980. There, he helped power the Chargers�f Air Coryell attack and led the league with 19 touchdowns in 1981.
Three years later, he was finished in pro football, suspended for the season after a positive test for cocaine. He attempted a brief comeback in 1985, but continued to struggle with drugs. In 1989, he was sentenced to 18 months in prison for selling cocaine.
When he got out, he turned his life around, counseling drug users and gang members. �gI�fm a very selfish person,�h Muncie told the Los Angeles Times in 2008, �gand I like to feel good. One way I could make myself feel good was by helping other people. I learned, over a period of time, that was something that worked for me.�h From the Times:
His Chuck Muncie Youth Foundation, a nonprofit established in 1997 and based in Oxnard, has helped countless youngsters avoid the bad decisions that nearly destroyed its namesake, providing Southern California youth with alternatives to the street and offering a highly regarded tattoo-removal program.
Muncie, who spends much of his time at his Bay Area home in Emeryville, also spearheads a mentoring program for athletes at his alma mater.
�gWhenever we call, he makes himself available,�h says Dr. Bill Coysh, director of sports medicine for the Cal athletic department. �gThat�fs what�fs incredible about him. This is not a paid position. He does it because that�fs how he is.�h
If a similar program had been in place when Muncie played at Cal, the former running back says, �git would have made all the difference in the world.�h
Or maybe not.
�gBack in the �f70s,�h says Muncie, noting that he started using cocaine in college, �geverything was about experimentation, and Berkeley was a different place than it is now. It was a different time, and we didn�ft have the education we have now on drug abuse, so it�fs kind of hard to compare. It�fs apples and oranges.�h
His past may be less than noble, but Muncie, 55, embraces its lessons.
�gEverything I did and everything I went through in my life has allowed me to do the things I�fm doing now,�h says Muncie, who spent about 1 1/2 years behind bars. �gI�fve been able to tell these guys, �eBeen there, done that, and if you keep doing these things, this is what�fs going to happen.�f �g
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 4:36 am Post subject:
San Francisco wins bid for Super Bowl L
(or as normal people would say it "Super Bowl 50")
BOSTON – The San Francisco Bay Area has been awarded Super Bowl L, the NFL announced during league meetings Tuesday. It will be the second time the area has hosted a Super Bowl.
The game is scheduled for February 2016 at the San Francisco 49ers' new stadium in Santa Clara. Levi's Stadium will officially open in 2014 and reportedly is nearing the halfway point in its construction. The stadium is adjacent to the team's training complex. It is also next to Great America amusement park and across from the Santa Clara Convention Center.
"This is an exciting day for San Francisco and the Bay Area," 49ers owner Dr. John York said. "I think our presentation put us over the top.
"It's a historic Super Bowl and we will see some historic innovation."
Niners CEO Jed York reacts following the announcement of San Francisco's winning bid. (AP)The last time San Francisco hosted the Super Bowl was January 1985, when the game was played at Stanford Stadium between the 49ers and Miami Dolphins. The 49ers won that game, the second of the team's five Super Bowl titles.
In addition, Miami came up short in its bid for Super Bowl LI, which was awarded to Houston.
Ironically, San Francisco's bid for Super Bowl L beat South Florida's hopes for an 11th Super Bowl game. Miami's bid was hit hard when the Florida legislature refused to move on a possible referendum that would have provided $200 million in public funding as part of roughly $400 million improvements to Sun Life Stadium. The NFL has been pushing the city and team owner Stephen Ross for upgrades since the February 2010 championship in Miami, three years after the Indianapolis Colts' Super Bowl victory over the Chicago Bears in the same stadium was hit by rain.
The next two Super Bowls are scheduled to be played in New Jersey next February and in Glendale, Ariz., in 2015.
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Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 6:43 pm Post subject:
The Secretary of Defense has passed away:
Deacon Jones dies at 74
Hall of Fame football player David "Deacon" Jones, one of the Los Angeles Rams' heralded Fearsome Foursome whose outspoken persona and relentless pursuit of quarterbacks helped turn defensive linemen into stars, died Monday of natural causes at his home in Anaheim Hills. He was 74.
His death was confirmed late Monday by his stepson Greg Pinto.
Jones, who played for the Rams from 1961 to '71 and later for the San Diego Chargers and Washington Redskins, was the league's top defensive player in 1967 and '68 and was selected to the Pro Bowl eight times. He was named to the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1980.
He was "without doubt the greatest defensive end to play in modern day football," George Allen, coach during many of his best seasons with the Rams, said during Jones' 1975 news conference announcing his retirement.
Jones, 6 feet 5 and 272 pounds, was quick and quotable, an obscure 14th-round draft choice from Mississippi Vocational College who did not stay obscure for long. "When I first came up, defensive linemen were dull as hell," he told The Times in 1980. "Some were great performers, but nobody knew who they were. I set out to change that."
He not only took great pleasure in tackling quarterbacks behind the line of scrimmage, he came up with the name "sack" to better describe it. Times columnist Jim Murray once said Jones "eats quarterbacks for a living."
And his signature move, a head slap that pulverized offensive linemen who tried to keep him from the quarterback, was so dangerous it was banned by the NFL.
"It was the greatest thing I ever did and when I left the game they outlawed it," he told The Times in 2009. "I couldn't be more proud."
He said he gave himself the nickname Deacon after joining the Rams because there were too many David Joneses in the local phone book. "Football is a violent world and Deacon has a religious connotation," he told The Times in 1980. "I thought a name like that would be remembered."
Merlin Olsen, another member of the Rams' Fearsome Foursome who died in 2010, once said of his longtime teammate: "There has never been a better football player than Deacon Jones."
David Jones was born Dec. 9, 1938, in Eatonville, Fla., where his parents ran a barbecue stand. He played high school football but didn't get a scholarship offer until a year after his senior season when he and two other high school teammates heard from South Carolina State in 1958.
"I had unusual ability, and I knew that," Jones told the Palm Beach Post in 2007. "I knew I could play the game, I knew I had the speed, the quickness. I just needed the training."
He played only one season at South Carolina State, sitting out a year and then transferring to Mississippi Vocational College.
"I left some problems in South Carolina," he told The Times in 1985. "I was mixed up in lunch-counter demonstrations then.... I had the water treatment and the dogs and all that stuff and even spent some time in jail."
A scout for the Rams looking at a running back spotted Jones and he became the 186th player taken in the 1961 draft.
Jones played right away on a dreadful Rams team that finished 4-10. They won only one game in 1962, but their defense was starting to take shape with Olsen joining the team as a rookie. Rosey Grier and Lamar Lundy were the other defensive linemen who formed the Fearsome Foursome.
The Rams didn't start to win consistently until 1966, when the defensive-minded Allen became coach. By 1967, they were 11-1-2 and began qualifying regularly for the playoffs.
Their success was built on a ferocious defense led by Jones, who was by then famous enough to be known as the "Secretary of Defense."
"He was fantastic coming off the ball," Bob Windsor, a tight end for the San Francisco 49ers, told Investor's Business Daily in 2007. "He had the greatest head slap anyone could have. Our right tackle Cas Banaszek had ice bags on his head after every game against the Rams.�c Deacon hit him so hard."
Sports Illustrated writer Paul Zimmerman said Jones — whose 1996 biography was called "Headslap" — could split an opponent's helmet with his hands.
The man who invented the sack told the Associated Press in 2002 that he had more than 20 sacks in more than one season. But the NFL didn't chart them as an official statistic during Jones' career.
Jones' celebrity extended beyond the football field. He was a singer and acted in movies and television, and he was one of several former athletes featured in a series of light-hearted commercials for Miller Lite beer.
"When I looked at the things I was doing it wasn't like a job. It was all [an extension] of my football career," he told The Times in 2009.
The Rams traded him and two other players to San Diego in January 1972 in exchange for three draft choices and a player. He played two seasons there before finishing his career with Allen, his old Rams coach, Allen, in Washington in 1974.
Among Jones' post-football activities was a foundation that helped inner-city youths.
"Some people see players as heroes, and that's ridiculous," he told the Lincoln, Neb., Journal Star in 2007. "I played in a brutal game, but it was a business." In addition to his stepson, he was survived by his wife, Elizabeth, and a grandson.
I saw Deacon Jones play many times during his L.A. Rams days. He was a great great player and part of an exceptional defensive front four.
George Allen loved veteran players, loved coaching defense, and loved his Fearsome Foursome. He really coddled those four guys (actually five--Roger Brown replaced Rosey Grier after the latter suffered a career-ending injury) during practice; he wanted them fresh and ready to go at gametime.
There are great players, and then there are those whose prowess and achievement and reputation put them on a rarified level. Deacon Jones was one of those figures.
Florida starting linebacker Antonio Morrison has been suspended from the team after his second arrest in barely more than a month.
Gainesville Police say Morrison approached an officer's vehicle at the scene of a disturbance early Sunday morning and began barking at a police dog.
Morrison, 19, was arrested and charged with "interfering with police by harassing a police animal" and resisting arrest without violence after allegedly initially refusing to cooperate with officers' attempts to detain him. Both charges are misdemeanors.
Morrison was also arrested June 16 after allegedly punching a bouncer at a Gainesville nightclub. Though Florida coach Will Muschamp said at SEC media days he had not yet decided on a punishment for Morrison related to that incident, he announced Sunday he has suspended the rising sophomore in the wake of his latest arrest.
"I'm extremely disappointed in Antonio Morrison's decision making," Muschamp said in a statement released by Florida. "He has been suspended from the team and will miss at least two games to begin the season."
According to the police report, a K9 officer named "Bear" was sitting inside a stopped police car outside a Gainesville nightclub Sunday morning when Morrison walked by. The report says Morrison approached and began making what he reportedly described as a "woof-woof sound" at the dog, interrupting the officers' investigation and leading to the arrest.
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Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:06 am Post subject:
Former Colts' defensive tackle Art Donovan passed away yesterday at 89. He's kind of like Yogi Berra, he was a GREAT player (made the Hall of Fame) but is more famous for his life after football.
Former Colts' defensive tackle Art Donovan passed away yesterday at 89. He's kind of like Yogi Berra, he was a GREAT player (made the Hall of Fame) but is more famous for his life after football.
Art wasn't much at picking Super Bowl winners though. Dave asks him who he favors twice and he was wrong both times.
After he passed away, I went on Amazon to see if I could purchase his book, Fatso: Football When Men were really Men. The book was written over 25 years ago; I heard it was really entertaining and funny, much like Donovan was in his public appearances. It's out of print: most of the hardback copies were going for between 1500 and 4000 dollars; paperbacks were also exorbitantly high.
Maybe one day it'll come out in Kindle.
Donovan was part of a Baltimore Colts team that should be more feted. They won back-to-back championships, including winning the "Greatest Game in NFL History"--the overtime victory over the Giants in 1958. The talent level of those Colts teams was impressive; not only were there other Hall of Famers like Donovan, but some of those were among the best to ever play their positions: Johnny Unitas, Gino Marchetti, Jim Parker, Raymond Berry, Lenny Moore.
After he passed away, I went on Amazon to see if I could purchase his book, Fatso: Football When Men were really Men. The book was written over 25 years ago; I heard it was really entertaining and funny, much like Donovan was in his public appearances. It's out of print: most of the hardback copies were going for between 1500 and 4000 dollars; paperbacks were also exorbitantly high.
Maybe one day it'll come out in Kindle.
You might want to check eBay... Or maybe the local library.
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