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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 1:04 pm Post subject:
Anime Dad wrote:
it's a crowded city.......actually i've been at shinjuku station near rush hour.....if you're trying to walk against the tide of humanity......forget it you're screwed.
this girl i met in tokyo mentioned she had a friend of hers whose father had 3 ribs cracked from the train cars being overstuffed with ppl.....talk about nuts.....breaking 3 ribs just standing in the subway car...that's crazy.
Makes what you said in the MM thread about women getting groped very believeable, ne?
Oh yeah, it's believable. But the frequency is just not as much as it's hyped up to be. More sensationalism I presume. LOL
Kind of like everyone in Texas wears a cowboy or everyone in Arkansas has only one tooth. Sure, there are near toothless people in Arkansas. But it's not as common as it's made out to be.
Hey, just wondering... where else do you guys go besides Tokyo? To be honest, Akita is my favorite place (no congestion, easy living and cool people). Followed by Atami.
Joined: 15 Jun 2004 Posts: 46182 Location: Los Skandolous, California Country:
Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 1:13 pm Post subject:
yeah it's mere sensationalism when most cities in Japan have Women only cars.....i've travelled the world over and never even heard such a thing. it's so common it's even been lampooned into a adult club.
Train Cafe takes hands-on approach in fight against molesting
Groping remains a painful fact of life for Japan's female train commuters, even with most cities now having Women Only carriages to combat the heinous issue, but molesting addiction has recently started attracting headlines, according to Weekly Playboy (10/9).
Celebrity economist Kazuhide Uekusa's arrest last month for groping -- his third sex charge in eight years -- has thrown the spotlight on the scores of train molesters who simply cannot help themselves.
Train Cafe, an adult's club in the basement of a seedy building in Tokyo's Ikebukuro district, claims to be combating the crime of molestation by getting chikan, or gropers, off the streets.
Train Cafe is a members' only club and is staffed by young women dressed in school uniforms or aprons. Membership costs 5,000 yen and there is a 2,000 yen payment for a cup of tea levied with each visit. A subsequent payment of 3,600 yen for 20 minutes permits members to partake of Train Cafe's services.
Those services are carried out in a room refurbished so that it looks exactly like the inside of a carriage on the Yamanote Line, the train that loops the central Tokyo area. Young women stand at strategic points in the carriage and patrons are permitted to fondle them in whatever way they please. An extra payment of 5,000 yen gives patrons the option of selecting the woman they want to ride with for a 15-minute period.
Male customers, of who the club says there are 4,000, are not allowed to ejaculate in the establishment.
Train Cafe members are offered a virtual reality trip on the Yamanote Line.
"During the 20 minute session, the trip takes you from Ikebukuro to Meguro (about one-third of the Yamanote Line's 60-minute complete loop). With each stop, the doors of the carriage open and the girls get on and off the train. We use actual recordings of the conductors' announcements and LCD screens outside the window display actual footage of the trip along the Yamanote Line," Train Cafe's operator tells Weekly Playboy. "We cannot be beaten when it comes to reality."
Train Cafe's operator tells the weekly that the club's membership is largely based on men in the early to mid-40s. He adds that many customers enter the establishment saying that they had just ridden trains and been driven almost mad by temptation, but made it to the club before tackling an innocent woman commuter.
"We have a crime reducing effect," the operator says.
Far from feeling demeaned, women working at the club say they enjoy it.
"I loath real chikan. But if I'm attacked by one, I'm too scared to do anything and just shut up. I really, really hate it," 20-year-old Rin tells the weekly. "But here, all the customers are members. You know you're going to be felt up and it's a good place to make friends, so I enjoy it." (By Ryann Connell)
Just providing a service I suppose, and saving innocent women from a groping (perhaps) ...... but that's pretty sad really.
Sad? Why? If there's a demand for it, it's a good idea. Fortunately, the demand isn't very high and there's probably a scant few of those type places.
Hostess clubs are more popular.
Joined: 15 Jun 2004 Posts: 46182 Location: Los Skandolous, California Country:
Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 1:19 pm Post subject:
Anime Dad wrote:
Just providing a service I suppose, and saving innocent women from a groping (perhaps) ...... but that's pretty sad really.
it has to be a fairly serious issue - do you think a country that is as crowded as japan would sacrifice a train car to women only if there wasn't a dire need for deterence....most countries that i've been to have first class cars on subways that they charge extra for as opposed to reserving cars for women only at the same price.
Actually I was thinking about something similar for here in the USA. Maybe in NYC or LA. But instead of groping ladies, the paying customers could simulate hijacking subway cars and holding the passengers hostages (maybe even simulated shootings).
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Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 4:17 pm Post subject:
Hanzo21 wrote:
Sad? Why? If there's a demand for it, it's a good idea. Fortunately, the demand isn't very high and there's probably a scant few of those type places.
Hostess clubs are more popular.
What? You don't think it's sad that guys have to go to a place like that? Would you go?
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:57 pm Post subject:
Dochira, you mentioned you were looking for particular stores to find Rina merchandise and the like (i.e. DVDs, photobooks, magazines, posters, etc..)
this was the best advice I was given in that regard:
"Most bookshops will have what your friend is looking for. In Tokyo, one of the largest stores is Kinokuniya in the Takashimaya Times Square annex near the south exit of Shinjuku station. Other large stores are Maruzen, a few minutes walk from the Marunouchi North exit of Tokyo station, and Book 1st, across the road from Tokyu Bunkamura in Shibuya.
For cheaper copies, your friend might want to look out for a chain of secondhand bookshops called Book Off. They have hundreds of stores nationwide and most of their merchandise is as good as new."
Joined: 13 Oct 2004 Posts: 8550 Location: California Country:
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 1:46 am Post subject:
Tu_triky wrote:
Dochira, you mentioned you were looking for particular stores to find Rina merchandise and the like (i.e. DVDs, photobooks, magazines, posters, etc..)
this was the best advice I was given in that regard:
"Most bookshops will have what your friend is looking for. In Tokyo, one of the largest stores is Kinokuniya in the Takashimaya Times Square annex near the south exit of Shinjuku station. Other large stores are Maruzen, a few minutes walk from the Marunouchi North exit of Tokyo station, and Book 1st, across the road from Tokyu Bunkamura in Shibuya.
For cheaper copies, your friend might want to look out for a chain of secondhand bookshops called Book Off. They have hundreds of stores nationwide and most of their merchandise is as good as new."
Well, it looks like the bookstore is the place to go. I don't think the DVDs I'm looking for would show up this soon at Book Off.... speaking of which, why don't we have this store up in NorCal. SoCal gets all the Japan love.
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