Hi everyone.

I've been trying to learn Kanji. I have a really great book which teaches you the basic first 300 characters. Its for beginners and has

- a way to remmeber the character (ie what its meant to look like/history)
- common pronunciation
- common compound pronunciation

Its awesome if you know no kanji and want to learn fast. The problem is is that it was made in 1971 so I don't know if new editions are still printed.

"Read Japanese Today" by Len Walsh, CHARLES E. TUTTLE COMPANY.

Its easy to remember the individual characters, but harder to remember how to pronounce them.

I hope this thread can be used for us to practice our kanji!

I'll start with some easy stuff. I'm trying to learn the compound readings of the following characters by example. Does anyone know some kanji words that contain the following characters?

EG:
�� (day; ��) is found in ���� (every-day; �܂��ɂ�)


Does anyone know words which contain the compounds:
�j (dan)
�� (ryoku & riki)
�� (bo)
�� (nyuu)
�q (ko, shoo, o)
�� (ritsu, tachi)
�� (sui)

Thanks, and more to come.

dampwashcloth wrote:

Does anyone know some kanji words that contain the following characters? EG: �� (day; ��) is found in ���� (every-day; �܂��ɂ�) Does anyone know words which contain the compounds: �j (dan) �� (ryoku & riki) �� (bo) �� (nyuu) �q (ko, shoo, o) �� (ritsu, tachi) �� (sui) Thanks, and more to come.

Isn't ��(��) usually by itself? Heres one:
���X(�Ђ�) every day, daily, day after day

�q (ko, shoo, o)
�q��(���ǂ�) child, children

�� (ritsu)
�B����w(���イ��‚�������) state-run college, state university

�� (sui)
���j���i�����悤�сj Wednesday

Good luck

dampwashcloth wrote:

Hi everyone. Does anyone know words which contain the compounds: �j (dan) �� (ryoku & riki) �� (bo) �� (nyuu) �q (ko, shoo, o) �� (ritsu, tachi) �� (sui) Thanks, and more to come.

�j��(dansei) man
�j��(danjo) men and women
�j�q(danshi) boy
�j��(danji) male infant (sometimes just means guy)

�l��(jinriki) man power
����(nyuuryoku) input
����(maryoku) magic power
�n��(bariki) horsepower

�ꉹ(boin) vowel
��q(boshi) mother and child
����(fubo) father and mother
�c��(sobo) grandmother

����(nyuuen) entrance (to some sort of park)
����(nyuujou) entrance (to anywere)
����(rannyuu) barge or break into
����(sennyuu) infiltrate

�q��(shiin) consonant
�q�L(koneko) baby cat
�X�q(boushi) hat
�֎q(isu) chair

����(tachiba) position; stance (on a matter)
���h(rippa) superb
������(rippoutai) cube
����(kenritsu) prefectorial

����(suiryoku) water power (hydraulic power)
����(suimen OR minamo) water surface
���p��(inyousui) drinking water
�J��(amamizu) rainwater

A note on �q: I've never seen it with the reading of 'o' or 'shoo.' If you are thinking of ��, then yes, those are the standard on-yomi. �q has four standard readings... (ko, shi, su, and ne).

Anyway, I should get back to actually studying.

HTH,

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�� (ko, shoo, o)

Yeah, sorry I meant �� not �q.

Thanks for the help kokuou and roppongi04.

I'm still learning.

Also;

�� (koo)
�f (ei)
�� (ko)
�b (wa)

dampwashcloth wrote:

Also; �� (koo) �f (ei) �� (ko) �b (wa)

�f�� (eiga) Movie
�Ós (koto) it's a last name or family name
�d�b (denwa) Phone

�l���@�� ���񂱂��@= population
���@���@�����@= mouth
�����@���@���肮���@�� main entrance (front entrance)
�k���@���@���������@= north entrance
�����@=�@�Ђ��傤�����@= emergency exit

Kanji practice? What really helped me is writing it over and over which practice sheets and memorizing the on-yomi and kun-yomi readings. I have a blank template scanned up that you can print out to practice with. If you guys want, I can put it for ya.

Oh, y es please eightysix - ps is there a thread about that chick in your sig?

A better example for �� would be ���� (���イ��) - pre-owned, used (e.g. books, cars).

�o�� (�ł���) should also be noted - it means exit.

dampwashcloth wrote:

Oh, y es please eightysix

Here it is:

http://members.dslextreme.com/users/tetsujin/junk/practice_ws.png

dampwashcloth wrote:

ps is there a thread about that chick in your sig?

Sadly, no. It's a long story.

thanks for that kanji sheet

�i (hin, shina)
�� (jo)
�� (ge)
�� (ta)
�� (mei)
�y (to, do)
�o (shutsu)
�� (haku)
�� (bei)
�� (ko)

ps how do Japanese names work? Do they use the compound version or the by-its-self version of the character? I'm pretty sure they use the by-itself version to construct names? (on-yomi i think its called)

pps. what's a quick and useful book to learn basic japanese vocabularly and language. This is for reading/conversation purposes.

Is there a trick to learning the various meanings of ��?

Thanks

dampwashcloth wrote:

ps how do Japanese names work? Do they use the compound version or the by-its-self version of the character? I'm pretty sure they use the by-itself version to construct names? (on-yomi i think its called)

Persons name? Then they use both.

dampwashcloth wrote:

Is there a trick to learning the various meanings of ��?

I don't think there is a trick...but how about these

�� (on-yomi sei,shou) means life or birth (kun-yomi nama) means fresh

���� (sei-katsu) life
�搶 (sen-sei) teacher (came from the meaning born earlier)
���Y (sei-san) produce (make new thing = give birth)
���k (sei-to) student (I don't know why using �� to construct this word)

�ꐶ (isshou) lifetime
�E�� (sesshou) kill one's life
�a�� (tan-jou) birth (changed from pronouncing tan-shou)

���� (nama-niku) fresh meat

dampwashcloth wrote:

�i (hin, shina) �� (jo) �� (ge) �� (ta) �� (mei) �y (to, do) �o (shutsu) �� (haku) �� (bei) �� (ko)

I'll try to help you out.

�H�i�@(shokuhin) - food product
���@(jyouzu) - expert
�ȏ�@(ijyou) - above, at least
�����@(setsumei) - explanation
�����@(meiji) - Meiji era (1868-1912)
�y�j���@(doyoubi) - Saturday
�o���@(shuppatsu) - departure
�g���@(kohaku) - NHK year-end singing festival/competition
��@(beikoku) - a formal term for the US
���ā@(nichibei) - Japan-US (relations)
���@(also pronounced hikari) - light

Shoy wrote:

snip

Can't �� be used like this too:

���܂�� (umareru): to be born

Roppongi04 wrote:

thanks for that kanji sheet

Yep, no prob.

dampwashcloth wrote:

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this might help.. http://www.jlpt-kanji.com/
used it to study before and it provides examples of compounds
hope that helps

Hi!

Yeah, I am also working on a kanji-learning site
( see: http://www.hiroki.de )
Though I do not focus on JLPT, but rather on the official 1945 Jouyou-Kanji. But I will implement a JLPT-list, too, cause I need it ntil december (I want to take the risk and participate in the JLPT-2kyuu exam)
So lst year I started writing a kanji-list, for computer-based-kanji-drills. And I just thought: why not share my ... "project" with other people. And here it is. There are still by far not enough Kanjis listed there. But starting from September I will have more time again, so I can spend more time on it, and input _all_ kanjis. In addition i will then also assign a JLPT-level-number to each Kanji, so that they can then also be viewed by JLPT-level.

My list includes readings, (atm) 3 dictionary-indizes, on and kun-yomi with meanings (of course), and compounds. In addition I also collect "kotowaza" (Japanese proverbs) for some kanjis. I'm still working on it.
I would appreciate if anyone could take any advantage from my webpage. I would also appreciate any comments about my page/the project. Everybody's welcome.

Cheers,

h i r o k i

erm...just wanna ask.. does japanese kanji n chinese kanji the same???